Hey Ric, On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 05:07:45PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 11/08/2013 05:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > >Hey Ric, > > > >On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >>On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote: > >>>Hey Christoph, > >>> > >>>On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >>>>On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote: > >>>>>Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at > >>>>>Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago. The holiday season is > >>>>>coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the > >>>>>bear, and eat my hat. I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off > >>>>>exploring on Mars. I trust Mark to do that because he is totally > >>>>>awesome. > >>>>Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you > >>>>a fan base. > >>>It's posted for review. > >>> > >>>>While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel > >>>>development making decisions without even contacting the major > >>>>contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor > >>>>contributor to start with. > >>>> > >>>>Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the > >>>>definition from Trond here again: > >>>> > >>>> http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html > >>>> > >>>>By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should > >>>>be the maintainer. He's been the main contributor and chief architect > >>>>for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy > >>>>of SGI. This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're > >>>>doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the > >>>>same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer > >>>>involvement with the project, and having them officially in control > >>>>would help us forward a lot. It would also avoid having to spend > >>>>considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer. > >>>> > >>>>Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary > >>>>XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and > >>>>architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to > >>>>retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done > >>>>maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011. > >>>I think we're doing a decent job too. So thanks for that much at least. ;) > >>>>I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the > >>>>unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is > >>>>trying to enforce on the community. > >>>That really didn't happen Christoph. It's not in my tree or in a pull request. > >>> > >>>Linus, let me know what you want to do. I do think we're doing a fair job over > >>>here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too > >>>busy. I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but > >>>they really don't need to replace me to get their code in. Ouch. > >>> > >>>Thanks, > >>> Ben > >>Christoph is not a Red Hat person. > >> > >>Jeff is from Oracle. > >> > >>This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing, > >Sorry if my read on that was wrong. > > I do appreciate the work and effort you and the SGI team put in but > think that this will be a good way to keep the community happier and > even more productive going forward. > > >>Dave simply has earned the right > >>to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer. > >Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys. ;) > > Those should come from the developers, thanks! I actually do need your Reviewed-by. We'll try and get this one in 3.13. ;) Thanks, Ben > >From: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx> > > > >xfs: update maintainers > > > >Add Dave as maintainer of XFS. > > > >Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx> > >--- > > MAINTAINERS | 2 +- > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > >Index: b/MAINTAINERS > >=================================================================== > >--- a/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600 > >+++ b/MAINTAINERS 2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600 > >@@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F: drivers/xen/*swiotlb* > > XFS FILESYSTEM > > P: Silicon Graphics Inc > >+M: Dave Chinner <dchinner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > M: Ben Myers <bpm@xxxxxxx> > >-M: Alex Elder <elder@xxxxxxxxxx> > > M: xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx > > L: xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx > > W: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs > _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs