Hi, Can someone help me work out where writes are coming from on my system? They don't seem to be originating from a user process and it looks like [xfsbufd] might be to blame. I have recently bought a Samsung NC110 nebook with an Hitachi HTS543232A7A384 320GB SATA disk. I have installed Debian Squeeze. This comes with Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 but I upgraded to the Linux-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 kernel in squeeze-backports to get the appropriate firmware for the wireless card. My partitions are mostly XFS, except /boot which is ext4. I notice that the 3.2 kernel constantly spins the disk up and down at an interval of about 10 seconds. Under the 2.6 one the interval is much larger but it still happens. In order to investigate I used 'iotop' invoked both as 'iotop' and 'iotop -oa'. On a quiescent system this shows periodic overall writes of a few KB/s but it doesn't show any writes for a particular process. No reads are ever shown on a quiescent system. I used blktrace which suggested that sda6 (/var) was to blame. I used 'lsof |grep /var' to see what was running and switched off a bunch of daemons just to be sure: ----- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/cron stop; sudo /etc/init.d/dbus stop; sudo /etc/init.d/rsyslog stop; sudo /etc/init.d/atd stop; sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop ----- I used 'tail -f' on the remaining open files in /var to ensure that nothing was being written. The disk still spun up and down frequently. I took some blktraces with 'sudo btrace /dev/sda > /dev/shm/blktrace.Linux-...': ----- $ cat blktrace.Linux-2.6.32-5-amd64 8,0 0 1 0.000000000 644 A W 28618136 + 8 <- (8,6) 3970456 8,0 0 2 0.000002934 644 Q W 28618136 + 8 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 3 0.000013899 644 G W 28618136 + 8 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 4 0.000020464 644 P N [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 5 0.000024096 644 I W 28618136 + 8 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 0 0.000032197 0 m N cfq280 insert_request 8,0 0 0 0.000035899 0 m N cfq280 add_to_rr 8,0 0 0 0.000041346 0 m N cfq280 preempt 8,0 0 0 0.000044559 0 m N cfq644 slice expired t=1 8,0 0 0 0.000047911 0 m N cfq644 resid=-30761 8,0 0 0 0.000054616 0 m N cfq280 set_active 8,0 0 0 0.000059994 0 m N cfq280 fifo=(null) 8,0 0 0 0.000062857 0 m N cfq280 dispatch_insert 8,0 0 0 0.000066419 0 m N cfq280 del_from_rr 8,0 0 0 0.000070121 0 m N cfq280 dispatched a request 8,0 0 0 0.000074521 0 m N cfq280 activate rq, drv=1 8,0 0 6 0.000076756 644 D W 28618136 + 8 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 7 0.000139753 644 A WS 28618208 + 16 <- (8,6) 3970528 8,0 0 8 0.000142197 644 Q WS 28618208 + 16 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 9 0.000147645 644 G WS 28618208 + 16 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 10 0.000152603 644 P N [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 11 0.000155118 644 I W 28618208 + 16 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 0 0.000159588 0 m N cfq644 insert_request 8,0 0 0 0.000162521 0 m N cfq644 add_to_rr 8,0 0 0 0.000166921 0 m N cfq644 preempt 8,0 0 0 0.000169784 0 m N cfq280 slice expired t=1 8,0 0 0 0.000174673 0 m N cfq644 set_active 8,0 0 0 0.000178375 0 m N cfq644 fifo=(null) 8,0 0 0 0.000181099 0 m N cfq644 dispatch_insert 8,0 0 0 0.000184311 0 m N cfq644 del_from_rr 8,0 0 0 0.000187664 0 m N cfq644 dispatched a request 8,0 0 0 0.000191086 0 m N cfq644 activate rq, drv=2 8,0 0 12 0.000192972 644 D W 28618208 + 16 [flush-8:0] 8,0 0 13 1.854932267 0 C W 28618136 + 8 [0] 8,0 0 0 1.854957131 0 m N cfq280 complete 8,0 0 14 1.866415850 0 C W 28618208 + 16 [0] 8,0 0 0 1.866432402 0 m N cfq644 complete 8,0 0 0 1.866436453 0 m N cfq644 set_slice=25 CPU0 (8,0): Reads Queued: 0, 0KiB Writes Queued: 2, 12KiB Read Dispatches: 0, 0KiB Write Dispatches: 2, 12KiB Reads Requeued: 0 Writes Requeued: 0 Reads Completed: 0, 0KiB Writes Completed: 2, 12KiB Read Merges: 0, 0KiB Write Merges: 0, 0KiB Read depth: 0 Write depth: 2 IO unplugs: 0 Timer unplugs: 0 Throughput (R/W): 0KiB/s / 6KiB/s Events (8,0): 38 entries Skips: 3 forward (29 - 43.3%) ----- ----- $ cat blktrace.Linux-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 8,0 1 1 0.000000000 9 A WBSM 28595407 + 2 <- (8,6) 3947727 8,0 1 2 0.000003771 9 Q WBSM 28595407 + 2 [kworker/1:0] 8,0 1 3 0.000014736 9 G WBSM 28595407 + 2 [kworker/1:0] 8,0 1 4 0.000024165 9 I WBSM 28595407 + 2 [kworker/1:0] 8,0 3 1 0.000174603 0 D WSM 28595407 + 2 [swapper/1] 8,0 1 5 0.000363663 0 C WSM 28595407 + 2 [0] 8,0 1 6 0.037216442 936 A WM 24647680 + 1 <- (8,6) 0 8,0 1 7 0.037219166 936 Q WM 24647680 + 1 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 8 0.037230480 936 G WM 24647680 + 1 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 9 0.037233903 936 P N [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 10 0.037239001 936 I WM 24647680 + 1 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 0 1 0.037009992 0 C WSM 28595407 [0] 8,0 1 0 0.037248988 0 m N cfq202A / insert_request 8,0 1 11 0.037254506 936 U N [xfsbufd/sda6] 1 8,0 1 0 0.037261211 0 m N cfq202A / slice expired t=0 8,0 1 0 0.037267496 0 m N / served: vt=6391808 min_vt=6371328 8,0 1 0 0.037274201 0 m N cfq202A / sl_used=10 disp=1 charge=10 iops=0 sect=8 8,0 1 0 0.037280626 0 m N cfq workload slice:10 8,0 1 0 0.037285236 0 m N cfq202A / set_active wl_prio:0 wl_type:0 8,0 1 0 0.037289287 0 m N cfq202A / Not idling. st->count:1 8,0 1 0 0.037294525 0 m N cfq202A / fifo= (null) 8,0 1 0 0.037298017 0 m N cfq202A / dispatch_insert 8,0 1 0 0.037303953 0 m N cfq202A / dispatched a request 8,0 1 0 0.037307515 0 m N cfq202A / activate rq, drv=1 8,0 1 12 0.037309401 936 D WM 24647680 + 1 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 13 0.037518785 0 C WM 24647680 + 1 [0] 8,0 1 0 0.037539947 0 m N cfq202A / complete rqnoidle 0 8,0 1 0 0.037545115 0 m N cfq202A / set_slice=10 8,0 1 0 0.037547629 0 m N cfq schedule dispatch 8,0 1 14 0.087965523 936 A WM 28618208 + 16 <- (8,6) 3970528 8,0 1 15 0.087968386 936 Q WM 28618208 + 16 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 16 0.087978443 936 G WM 28618208 + 16 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 17 0.087981935 936 P N [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 18 0.087987592 936 I WM 28618208 + 16 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 0 0.087994995 0 m N cfq202A / insert_request 8,0 1 19 0.087999255 936 U N [xfsbufd/sda6] 1 8,0 1 0 0.088004563 0 m N cfq202A / slice expired t=0 8,0 1 0 0.088009871 0 m N / served: vt=6412288 min_vt=6391808 8,0 1 0 0.088016017 0 m N cfq202A / sl_used=10 disp=1 charge=10 iops=0 sect=1 8,0 1 0 0.088021255 0 m N cfq workload slice:10 8,0 1 0 0.088025725 0 m N cfq202A / set_active wl_prio:0 wl_type:0 8,0 1 0 0.088029776 0 m N cfq202A / Not idling. st->count:1 8,0 1 0 0.088034246 0 m N cfq202A / fifo= (null) 8,0 1 0 0.088037528 0 m N cfq202A / dispatch_insert 8,0 1 0 0.088042696 0 m N cfq202A / dispatched a request 8,0 1 0 0.088046328 0 m N cfq202A / activate rq, drv=1 8,0 1 20 0.088048214 936 D WM 28618208 + 16 [xfsbufd/sda6] 8,0 1 21 0.088291817 0 C WM 28618208 + 16 [0] 8,0 1 0 0.088311442 0 m N cfq202A / complete rqnoidle 0 8,0 1 0 0.088316680 0 m N cfq202A / set_slice=10 8,0 1 0 0.088319055 0 m N cfq schedule dispatch CPU0 (8,0): Reads Queued: 0, 0KiB Writes Queued: 0, 0KiB Read Dispatches: 0, 0KiB Write Dispatches: 0, 0KiB Reads Requeued: 0 Writes Requeued: 0 Reads Completed: 0, 0KiB Writes Completed: 1, 0KiB Read Merges: 0, 0KiB Write Merges: 0, 0KiB Read depth: 0 Write depth: 1 IO unplugs: 0 Timer unplugs: 0 CPU1 (8,0): Reads Queued: 0, 0KiB Writes Queued: 3, 9KiB Read Dispatches: 0, 0KiB Write Dispatches: 2, 8KiB Reads Requeued: 0 Writes Requeued: 0 Reads Completed: 0, 0KiB Writes Completed: 3, 9KiB Read Merges: 0, 0KiB Write Merges: 0, 0KiB Read depth: 0 Write depth: 1 IO unplugs: 2 Timer unplugs: 0 CPU3 (8,0): Reads Queued: 0, 0KiB Writes Queued: 0, 0KiB Read Dispatches: 0, 0KiB Write Dispatches: 1, 1KiB Reads Requeued: 0 Writes Requeued: 0 Reads Completed: 0, 0KiB Writes Completed: 0, 0KiB Read Merges: 0, 0KiB Write Merges: 0, 0KiB Read depth: 0 Write depth: 1 IO unplugs: 0 Timer unplugs: 0 Total (8,0): Reads Queued: 0, 0KiB Writes Queued: 3, 9KiB Read Dispatches: 0, 0KiB Write Dispatches: 3, 9KiB Reads Requeued: 0 Writes Requeued: 0 Reads Completed: 0, 0KiB Writes Completed: 4, 9KiB Read Merges: 0, 0KiB Write Merges: 0, 0KiB IO unplugs: 2 Timer unplugs: 0 Throughput (R/W): 0KiB/s / 102KiB/s Events (8,0): 51 entries Skips: 5 forward (71 - 58.2%) ----- The blktrace from Linux 3.2 seems much more incriminating for XFS than the Linux 2.6 one. Does anyone have any hints about whether this is an XFS bug or regression or where I can look for more information? Many thanks for your time. Regards, @ndy -- andyjpb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.ashurst.eu.org/ 0x7EBA75FF _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs