On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 01:09:12PM -0600, Mark Tinguely wrote: > On 01/25/12 10:10, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:22:22PM -0600, Mark Tinguely wrote: > >>On 01/-10/63 13:59, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > >>>Remove the now unused opportunistic parameter, and use the the > >>>xlog_writeq_wake and xlog_reserveq_wake helpers now that we don't have > >>>to care about the opportunistic wakeups. > >>> > >>>Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig<hch@xxxxxx> > >> > >>Looks good. My only concern is the way that xlog_grant_push_ail() > >>tries to kick start the writing of the log. It seems to me that a > >>combination of very large log requests could plug the log until the > >>next sync. > > > >How exactly? > > > > Thanks for giving me enough rope to hang myself :) > > I looked at it again and it could plug for a while, but not > necessarily until the next sync. > > I was looking at the fact that when the log is full, > xlog_grant_push_ail() will overlap cleaning threshold lsn for a > bunch of requests come in. This is because xlog_grant_push_ail() > uses the current tail when calculating cleaning threshold. This > cleaning overlap will happen until xfs_ail_push() cleans the space > and the moves the log tail. > > If a (unrealistically) big request sized greater than MAX(log > size/4, 256) follows some other requests then the big request The sizes of requests are known in advance. on a 4k block size filesystem, the largest request (transaction reservation) will be around 300KB. The smallest log size we support is 10MB for a 4K block size filesystem. Hence this isn't actually a problem. Even for larger block size filesystems, the minimum log size is scaled according to the largest possible transaction reservation. IIRC, that blows out to around 3MB in size and so the minimum log size grows accordingly. 4k filesystem: $ sudo mkfs.xfs -f -b size=4k -l size=10m /dev/vdb meta-data=/dev/vdb isize=256 agcount=4, agsize=655360 blks = sectsz=512 attr=2, projid32bit=0 data = bsize=4096 blocks=2621440, imaxpct=25 = sunit=0 swidth=0 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 ascii-ci=0 log =internal log bsize=4096 blocks=2560, version=2 = sectsz=512 sunit=0 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 $ 64k fileystem: $ sudo mkfs.xfs -f -b size=64k -l size=10m /dev/vdb log size 160 blocks too small, minimum size is 512 blocks Usage: mkfs.xfs .... Which means the minimum log size for a 64k block size filesytem is 32MB. Hence the situation you suggest cannot happen..... > determines the amount cleaned out of the queue. When the space is > cleaned out, the earlier processes waiting for the log are awoken > and use up the cleaned space, and there will not be enough space for > the big request. Future requests will clean up to MAX(their request > size, log size/4, 256). This will not be enough to satisfy the big > request at the front of the request queue. We will have to wait > another cleaning cycle for the tail to move and another log space > request but even this big request would eventually get satisfied. .... and so push a quarter of the log is always larger than any single request and therefore safe. Indeed, delayed logging makes use of this physical bound to determine when to checkpoint the aggregated changes. See the comment in xfs_log_priv.h above the definition of XLOG_CIL_SPACE_LIMIT and XLOG_CIL_HARD_SPACE_LIMIT and how they are used in xlog_cil_push() for more information about this. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs