pbrunnen put forth on 9/14/2010 11:35 AM: > But the downsides to debian have been holding me back... > 1) I miss yast. aptitude is just not the same. I prefer apt-get/aptitude because they are not menu driven. I can see how this could be an issue to someone who's been using a menu driven package manager for a while. > 2) Vendor support is officially non-existant. For Debian? Not true. See below. > We are a Dell shop and > upgrading openmanage is a pain. With SuSE its download and go. No surprise there. Dell has been in the Wintel pocket for years. They were the last tier 1 server vendor to offer AMD processors and the last to offer Linux support of any kind and were only able to do so when antitrust focus landed on both Intel and MS. If not for that Dell still probably wouldn't offer AMD/Linux. HP on the other hand supports RedHat, SuSE, _and_ Debian: http://h20219.www2.hp.com/services/us/en/consolidated/os-debian.html Debian 9x5 or 24x7 coverage with maximum 2-hour response > 3) I understand the ideology and legal reasons debian removes firmware blobs > (broadcom anyone) from their kernel modules... but this is always a real > pain. I end up monkeying about with the initrd image to get the firmware > blobs in... and often I just recompile with the blobs and forget it. Ran into this long ago, and it's one of the reasons I roll my own. I include the big blob in my kernels. For _all_ the driver blobs it only adds a couple hundred KB to the kernel image, and it's more than worth the memory consumption to gain the reduced PITA factor. > ;-) That makes a huge difference. But generally my experience thus far > with debian has been positive. Enough to make me consider switching. And > I know the XFS has never given me a lick of trouble. I've only been using XFS for about a year now, and I've had zero problems. One of my favorite features is xfs_fsr. Dovecot IMAP with mbox storage causes serious fragmentation with large mailboxes. There is no ability to defrag files online with EXT2/3, Reiser, or JFS, so this really comes in handy. Keeping user mbox files defragged increases responsiveness and decreases load on the servers. Switching to maildir storage would help considerably with fragmentation, but, my users make serious use of IMAP search. Searching an mmap'd 50MB mbox file containing 10k+ messages is _much_ faster than searching each of 10k+ files in an equivalent maildir subfolder, regardless of the underlying FS. Indexing obviously speeds this up tremendously in either case, but without frequent (daily) searches the indexes become stale due to new mail being added, so full searches of the mailboxes are frequent. > *Didn't want to seem off topic. Had to throw in the XFS reference at the > end. lol. Yeah, you/we probably should have made a new subject line when forking the thread. -- Stan _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs