On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Don Knecht wrote: >Well, I don't know how much good it would do, the i830 and current BIOS >work fine with windows XP and with a commercial x-server, ( I tried a >Summit LX demo from xi graphics), so their argument is likely to be that >the developers just need to fix the driver and/or xfree86.......i >noticed the Xaccel server wants no help from the kernel apg, that apg is >provided by their server, maybe that's a clue to someone as how xi does >it? You are missing the point. The driver is NOT broken. It is the BIOS that is broken. It is theoretically _possible_ to *work around* this broken BIOS limitation inside the video driver, yes. And that is what the Windows drivers do, and what the XiG X server likely does as well. So, how then did the Windows driver and XiG driver "work around" this issue? Simple, because Intel themselves created the Windows driver and they have the specifications and in depth knowledge of their own video hardware and motherboard chipsets, so they have everything they need to have in order to make their video hardware work on any platform they want it to work on. Intel can "Make It Happen(TM)" because it is THEIR HARDWARE to begin with. If it works also on XiG drivers, then Intel has given XiG their hardware specifications probably under NDA, or has given XiG the information that XiG required in order to work around this problem. It is not possible to fix these types of problems without 100% cooperation from the hardware vendors in question, and anyone thinking XFree86 developers can pull random technical specifications out of their ass or something are in a fantasy cloud. That said, I'm told the XFree86 in CVS head has a workaround for this issue which works on some Intel hardware, and that might include the hardware in question above. However, if it does not work around the broken BIOS bug induced problem, then don't complain to XFree86 developers, complain to your hardware vendor(s). They have our source code, we don't have theirs. -- Mike A. Harris _______________________________________________ XFree86 mailing list XFree86@xxxxxxxxxxx http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86