Glad to somebody found my message, excuse me for being such a noob and asking such silly questions, I'm afraid I've been spoon fed by microsoft and apple for a couple decades now, so it's taking me a while to get my thinking cap on. and I'm afraid the latest answers only leave me with more questions..... Mark Vojkovich pointed out: > Elsa's GLoria line spans many generations and different chip > vendors. Which driver to use depends on which specific model you > have. The VGA driver, which you are currently using, is for plain > VGA mode (depth 4 @ 640x480). OK so apparently I need another driver, I got the windows driver off the Elsa site, should I go back and look for a linux driver for this model and serial number? and if so, where would I put that file? -since I'm trying to install linux on a blank disk........? > > The whole server output is at /var/log/XFree86.0.log > .......right, so how do I access that from a dollar sign prompt? _______________________________________________ XFree86 mailing list XFree86@xxxxxxxxxxx http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86