i found a bug in xfree86 after reading alot i saw that xfree86setup doesn't write all the configuration in the XF86config i had to include lines like ModeLine and HorizSync and VertRefresh with the proper numbers and it worked just fine please note that the x server was crashing each time i start kdm now it works just fine _______________________________________________ XFree86 mailing list XFree86@xxxxxxxxxxx http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86