>> (I always considered the significantly simpler approach being enough: >> the user in enabling TWM_USE_XFT voluntarily passes "the point of no >> return"; if xft-font problems arise, then these are to be solved.) > > Well, that's the point. As you have it, the end user does _not_ in fact > decide on TWM_USE_XFT. The distributor does. > > Marc. I not quite sure if this is the essential point in our case who and how compiles twm, but which fonts are installed and what stands in system.twmrc for a user not wishing to touch the default, distributor-provided configuration. Having not verified, but I strongly suspect if starting the unmodified twm having first removed the 'misc/' font directory entirely, then X is not going to find 'fixed', and as of now, twm refuses to start. It appears, 'fixed' is an alias to something like '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1' according to misc/fonts.alias; and the key is, this name is XLFD compliant. So, luckily we are now a step closed to the solution: let's not use 'fixed' as coded-in-default in twm.c if TWM_USE_XFT is defined, but '-*-fixed-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*', and neither XListFonts() nor XftFontOpenXlfd() have any further difficulties! (Is XListFonts() supposed to translate font alias names at all?) This looks a good idea, in fact this is what you suggested first: let XListFonts() resolve 'fixed' and then use it. Now we know how to do that. :-) (As a backside, we then remove the flexibility in twm to use the 'fixed'-alias-redirection to an arbitrary font.) Greetings, Eeri Kask P.S. We could use some better initialisation for 'fixed' as above, maybe '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1' or whatever. _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@xxxxxxxxxxx http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel