Just a quick follow-up to the Mac OS X thread. Quite by accident (a good description of most of my computer knowledge) I noticed that there is a project to port XFree86 to Darwin http://www.xdarwin.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/xonx http://www.osxgnu.org/software/Xwin/xonx/ Or google XDarwin Of course, znApple has worse problems with OS X'd than that stupid rootless mode. I think they were finally able to replicate the worst of Windows. -- Ted Frison chaotic.com