Re: [xdp-hints] Re: XDP Redirect and TX Metadata

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

 





On 14/01/2025 19.07, Florian Kauer wrote:
Hi Marcus,

On 1/14/25 17:47, Marcus Wichelmann wrote:
Am 12.02.24 um 15:35 schrieb Florian Kauer:
On 12.02.24 14:41, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
Florian Kauer <florian.kauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

2. For the RX side, the metadata is documented as "XDP RX Metadata"
(https://docs.kernel.org/networking/xdp-rx-metadata.html), while for
TX it is "AF_XDP TX Metadata"
(https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/next/networking/xsk-tx-metadata.html).
That seems to imply that TX metadata only works for AF_XDP, but not
for direct redirection. Is there a reason for that?

Well, IIRC, AF_XDP was the most pressing use case, and no one has gotten
around to extending this to the regular XDP forwarding path yet.

Ok, that is fine. I had the fear that there is some fundamental problem
that prevents to implement this.

Hi,
are there any updates on this? I'm currently looking into this as well.

I am still interested, but have no implementation planned short- or mid-term.
So, looking forward to your implementation :-)

Greetings,
Florian


I'd like to have a way to enable the TX checksum offload when redirecting from
one device to another.
Stanislav Fomichev already implemented [1] the TX offload support for the AF_XDP
use case (thanks for that), but for now, this cannot be used for "regular"
redirects.

I'm currently in a position where I can invest some work into this, but figured
it would make sense to ask you first:

Do you already have concrete plans or ideas in mind, how the API to trigger the
TX offloads should look like?
I have seen the talk [2] from Jesper about this, but I'm not sure if the
proposals in there are still up to date.

My talk is outdated. My co-workers Arthur and Jakub did a
presentation[3] at LPC2024.  Alexei liked the Compressed Key-Value store
idea from that presentation[3].   So, we are currently working on a
Compressed Key-Value store that Arthur named "traits".  We are almost
done benchmarking this, see traits0N_* documents in [4].

[3] https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1935/
[4] https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/main/areas/hints/

Our implementation is primarily focused on the RX side, and transferring RX hardware metadata to CPUMAP+veth when doing XDP_REDIRECT.

You ask is about TX side, right?

I think it could be possible to introduce a program flag, just like
`BPF_F_XDP_HAS_FRAGS`, and if this flag is set, interpret a part of the
metadata area as a `struct xsk_tx_metadata`. Then, the code to apply the
offloads from that struct when xmit-ing the frame could be reused, as it
is already implemented in `mlx5e_xmit_xdp_frame` for example.
But the "xsk" in the struct name may be a bit confusing. :/

Do you think this could work or could you guide me into a direction that may
have a chance to be upstreamable? Also, is there any recent work on this that
I should know off?

Thanks!

Marcus Wichelmann
Hetzner Cloud GmbH

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20231127190319.1190813-3-sdf@xxxxxxxxxx/
[2] https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1362/attachments/1056/2017/xdp-hints-lpc2022.pdf






[Index of Archives]     [Linux Networking Development]     [Fedora Linux Users]     [Linux SCTP]     [DCCP]     [Gimp]     [Yosemite Campsites]

  Powered by Linux