Re: [PATCH] docs: maintainer: discourage taking conversations off-list

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Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> Multiple vendors seem to prefer taking discussions off list, and
> ask contributors to work with them privately rather than just send
> patches to the list. I'd imagine this is because it's hard to fit in
> time for random developers popping up with features to review into
> packed schedule. From what I've seen "work in private" usually means
> someone on the company side will be assigned to handle the interaction,
> possibly months later. In worst case, the person scheduled to help
> the contributor takes over and writes the code themselves.
> This is not how the community is supposed to work.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@xxxxxxxxxx>
> ---
> CC: workflows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: linux-doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ---
>  .../maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.rst     | 11 +++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.rst b/Documentation/maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.rst
> index f04cc183e1de..ac7798280201 100644
> --- a/Documentation/maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.rst
> @@ -83,6 +83,17 @@ bugs as well, if the report is of reasonable quality or indicates a
>  problem that might be severe -- especially if they have *Supported*
>  status of the codebase in the MAINTAINERS file.
>  
> +Open development
> +----------------
> +
> +Discussions about user reported issues, and development of new code
> +should be conducted in a manner typical for the larger subsystem.
> +It is common for development within a single company to be conducted
> +behind closed doors. However, maintainers must not redirect discussions
> +and development related to the upstream code from the upstream mailing lists
> +to closed forums or private conversations. Reasonable exceptions to this
> +guidance include discussions about security related issues.
> +

This reads as a vague ambiguous quasi-threat with no actionable way to
enforce it. In contrast, successful maintainers already have a sense of
the benefits of pushing discussions to the list as much as possible.

For new and growing maintainers, which I assume are the audience for
this guidance, that are unaware of the pitfalls of taking conversations
off-list, they likely need help understanding the *benefits* of open
development.

So if this goes in as is, so be it, but it feels like a missed
opportunity to extoll the virtues of open development. The benefits are
in the same vector as the "release early, release often" guidance where
the urge to polish a solution in private is a common trait of newcomers.
Lets document some tribal knowledge of how one moves past that first
instinct.




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