Hi David, On 06/11/2023 17:57, David Wei wrote: > On 2023-11-06 03:24, Matthieu Baerts wrote: >> On 05/11/2023 19:50, David Wei wrote: >>> As a beginner to netdev I found the volume of mail to be overwhelming. I only >>> want to focus on core netdev changes and ignore most driver changes. I found a >>> way to do this using lei, filtering the mailing list using lore's query >>> language and writing the results into an IMAP server. >> >> I agree that the volume of mail is too high with a variety of subjects. >> That's why it is very important to CC the right people (as mentioned by >> Patchwork [1] ;) ) >> >> [1] >> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20231105185014.2523447-1-dw@xxxxxxxxxxx/ > > Sorry and noted, I've now CC'd maintainers mentioned by Patchwork. Thanks! >>> This patch is an RFC draft of updating the maintainer-netdev documentation with >>> this information in the hope of helping out others in the future. >> >> Note that I'm also using lei to filter emails, e.g. to be notified when >> someone sends a patch modifying this maintainer-netdev.rst file! [2] >> >> But I don't think this issue of "busy mailing list" is specific to >> netdev. It seems that "lei" is already mentioned in another part of the >> doc [3]. Maybe this part can be improved? Or the netdev doc could add a >> reference to the existing part? > > I think "busy mailing list" is especially bad for netdev. There are many > tutorials for setting up lei, but my ideal goal is a copy + paste > command specifically for netdev that outputs into an IMAP server for > beginners to use. As opposed to writing something more generic. I see. I don't know if many people are in this case, but having this example will certainly help people adapting it to their case! >> (Maybe such info should be present elsewhere, e.g. on vger [4] or lore) >> >> [2] >> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/?q=%28dfn%3ADocumentation%2Fnetworking%2Fnetdev-FAQ.rst+OR+dfn%3ADocumentation%2Fprocess%2Fmaintainer-netdev.rst%29+AND+rt%3A1.month.ago.. >> [3] >> https://docs.kernel.org/maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.html#mailing-list-participation > > This document is aimed at kernel maintainers. My concern is that > beginners would not find or read this document. Indeed. >> [4] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > > It would be nice to add a link in the netdev list "Info" section. Do you > know how to update it? No, sorry. Maybe Jakub or DaveM can help? > How about keeping a netdev specific sample lei query in > maintainer-netdev and refer to it from [4]? Fine by me, but best to check with Netdev maintainers :) (...) > It would be ideal if we could express dfn:^net/*. I contacted the public > inbox folks and they said it is not supported :( Thank you for having asked them and Konstantin. That's a shame we cannot use regex. Maybe later. Cheers, Matt