On 7 September 2017 at 22:13, Mathieu Peyr?ga <mathieu.peyrega at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello > > Sorry, I'm kind of discovering all those wifi stuff and I'm not sure to > follow your argument. > > What I can see in current DB version is that some E.U. countries have it > enabled : > > e.g. Germany : > > |country DE: DFS-ETSI (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW) (5150 - 5250 @ 80), > (100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, > AUTO-BW (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS # short range devices (ETSI EN > 300 440-1) (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW) # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN > 302 567) (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40) | Correct, I missed that as they are using different (yet equivalent) syntax. So this range is defined for BG, DE, NL. This is still very much the exception rather than the norm. I maintain my opinion that these ranges should be removed on the basis that it is very low power and poses a risk in the presence of non-compliant devices. > > Regards, > > Mathieu Peyrega > > > > Le 07/09/2017 ? 14:38, Ryan Mounce a ?crit : >> >> Hi Mathieu, >> >> The permitted power within 5725-5875 MHz is only 25mW / 14dBm EIRP, as >> far as I am aware this was also the case prior to 2014. This rule does >> exist in the regdb for Bulgaria / BG, which is technically correct >> however in my opinion should be removed for consistency. >> >> I think the problem with 14dBm being such a low power level is that >> its useful range is very limited. There is also the fear that client >> devices designed for use outside the EU and not complying with 802.11d >> will transmit far beyond the permissible power level in this range >> upon associating with even a compliant AP. >> >> Whether for these reasons or others, the convention appears to be to >> simply disable this frequency range altogether for EU countries. >> >> Regards, >> Ryan Mounce >> >> On 7 September 2017 at 21:49, Mathieu Peyr?ga <mathieu.peyrega at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm wondering if the regulatory DB is up to date for France, especially >>> regarding channels in band 5725-5875 MHz >>> >>> in >>> >>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/sforshee/wireless-regdb.git/tree/db.txt?id=HEAD >>> >>> I can found (07/09/2017) : >>> >>> country FR: DFS-ETSI >>> (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20) >>> (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW >>> (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW >>> (5490 - 5710 @ 160), (27), DFS >>> # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567 >>> (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40) >>> >>> which as far as I understands it prevents those frequencies being used. >>> >>> The European Union have taken the following decision : >>> >>> >>> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32013D0752&from=EN >>> (or in French : >>> >>> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/FR/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32013D0752&from=FR) >>> >>> where (p14/20, line 61 of the frequencies table) it shoul be allowed in >>> E.U. >>> and the last column states that member countries should reflect thie E.U. >>> decision at national levels regulations before 2014 July 1st. >>> I don't know for other countries, but it seems that France as complied >>> with >>> this, regarding the document from our national agency (ARCEP) : >>> >>> https://www.arcep.fr/uploads/tx_gsavis/14-1263.pdf >>> >>> on page 23/35, the table gives the exact same condition as the E.U. >>> rules. I >>> believe those frequencies should now be allowed in FR regdomain. >>> >>> Also, I own a Synology RT2600AC routeur, and the regional settigns pages >>> allows to set "European Union" which result in the access point >>> broadcastin >>> a "EU" regdom that I can not find in the wireless-regdb >>> >>> Shouldn't it be added in the database ? >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Mathieu Peyr?ga >>> -- >>> tel : +33 (0)6 87 30 83 59 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wireless-regdb mailing list >>> wireless-regdb at lists.infradead.org >>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb > > > > -- > tel : +33 (0)6 87 30 83 59 >