Luis, thanks for explaining. Michael, This is about Germany (DE) not Danmark (DK) ... Devices without DFS would not have worked before in Germany. Best, -- Kurt Garloff, VP OPS Partner Engineering -- Novell Inc. SUSE: Supporting Linux since 1992. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:12:55AM -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > No Michael, let me review the patch with you and I'll comment on each > change it makes to make it clear to you. The lines with no - or + on > the left mean that the line is left intact, its present just for > reference. The lines with - mean that the line is being removed. The > lines with + mean that the line is being added. So we have: > > # entries 279004 and 280006 > (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > - # entries 303005, 304002 and 305002 > - (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > + # entry 303005 > + (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > > So the 5150 - 5350 range is being reduced to 5150 - 5250 and removing > DFS as a requirement for that range. > > + # entries 304002 and 305002 > + (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > > The removed bit of frequency gets added back but with DFS left as a requirement. > > # entries 308002, 309001 and 310003 > - (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > + (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS > > And finally, the 5470 - 5725 range now is being changed to allow > outdoor operation. > > Let me know if this makes things clearer. > > Luis > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Michael Green > <Michael.Green at atheros.com> wrote: > > Is the issue that the regdb currently limits DK to 2.4GHz operation (5GHz is disabled)? > > > > If I understand this email string, then clearly DK should be corrected to enable 5GHz operation. > > > > I believe DK should be set to the same 5GHz channel and power settings per the Harmonized standard EN301 893. This is true of all countries that accept CE Marking. > > > > If this patch/issue is about something else, then please let me know. > > > > tks, > > > > Michael Green > > Atheros Communications, Inc. > > mgreen at atheros.com > > Desk: ? +1-781-400-1491 > > Mobile: +1-508-380-4921 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kurt Garloff [mailto:garloff at suse.de] > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 4:15 AM > > To: John W. Linville > > Cc: Michael Green; Luis R. Rodriguez; wireless-regdb at lists.infradead.org; Johannes Berg; linux-wireless at vger.kernel.org > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] wireless-regdb: update rules for DE > > > > John, > > > > enjoy your birthday! > > > > Michael, > > > > enjoy vacation! > > > > I submitted this change 6 months ago. > > I was surprised that my ath9k device would not do anything in the 5GHz band unlike all neighour countries, found out that this is due to the regulatory DB and started studying the regulations to see whether it's justified. > > > > A few days certainly don't make a difference here. Review carefully when you can get to it next week. > > > > Best, > > -- > > Kurt Garloff, VP OPS Partner Engineering -- Novell Inc. > > SUSE: Supporting Linux since 1992. > > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:04:14PM -0500, John W. Linville wrote: > >> FWIW, I'm out on Friday anyway -- it's my birthday! :-) > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:23:42PM -0800, Michael Green wrote: > >> > Hi guys, > >> > > >> > I am on PTO until Monday. Do I need to read this now and respond or can it wait? ?I am not asking you to hold anything up due to me. But if you want me to give feedback on something, pls let me know if it can wait until Mon. > >> > > >> > Michael Green > >> > Atheros Communications, Inc. > >> > mgreen at atheros.com > >> > Desk: ? +1-781-400-1491 > >> > Mobile: +1-508-380-4921 > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Luis R. Rodriguez [mailto:mcgrof at gmail.com] > >> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:29 PM > >> > To: John W. Linville; Michael Green > >> > Cc: wireless-regdb at lists.infradead.org; Johannes Berg; Kurt Garloff; > >> > linux-wireless at vger.kernel.org > >> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] wireless-regdb: update rules for DE > >> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John W. Linville > >> > <linville at tuxdriver.com> wrote: > >> > > From: Kurt Garloff <garloff at suse.de> > >> > > > >> > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=127480075306482&w=2 > >> > > > >> > > Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof at gmail.com> > >> > > Acked-by: Johannes Berg <johannes at sipsolutions.net> > >> > > Signed-off-by: John W. Linville <linville at tuxdriver.com> > >> > > --- > >> > > Time to clear the logjam... > >> > > >> > Michael, are you subscribed to wireless-regdb now? Did you get this e-mail? ACK? > >> > > >> > ? Luis > >> > > >> > > ?db.txt | ? 24 +++++++++++++++++------- > >> > > ?1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) > >> > > > >> > > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt > >> > > index e63a43e..40a8bbc 100644 > >> > > --- a/db.txt > >> > > +++ b/db.txt > >> > > @@ -176,17 +176,27 @@ country CZ: > >> > > ? ? ? ?(5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > >> > > ? ? ? ?(5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 1000 mW), DFS > >> > > > >> > > -# Data from "Frequenznutzungsplan" (as published in April 2008), > >> > > -# downloaded from > >> > > http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/13358.pdf > >> > > -# Also applicable is > >> > > http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/5009.pdf > >> > > -# On the 5 GHz ranges TX power can be doubled if TPC is implemented. > >> > > +# Data from "Frequenznutzungsplan" (as published in April 2008), > >> > > +downloaded from # > >> > > +http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/cae/servlet/contentblob/38448/pub > >> > > +licationFile/2659/Frequenznutzungsplan2008_Id17448pdf.pdf > >> > > +# For the 5GHz range also see > >> > > +# > >> > > +http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/cae/servlet/contentblob/38216/pub > >> > > +licationFile/6579/WLAN5GHzVfg7_2010_28042010pdf.pdf > >> > > +# The values have been reduced by a factor of 2 (3db) for non TPC > >> > > +devices # (in other words: devices with TPC can use twice the tx power of this table). > >> > > +# Note that the docs do not require TPC for 5150--5250; the > >> > > +reduction to # 100mW thus is not strictly required -- however the > >> > > +conservative 100mW # limit is used here as the non-interference > >> > > +with radar and satellite # apps relies on the attenuation by the > >> > > +building walls only in the # absence of DFS; the neighbour countries have 100mW limit here as well. > >> > > + > >> > > ?country DE: > >> > > ? ? ? ?# entries 279004 and 280006 > >> > > ? ? ? ?(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW) > >> > > - ? ? ? # entries 303005, 304002 and 305002 > >> > > - ? ? ? (5150 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > >> > > + ? ? ? # entry 303005 > >> > > + ? ? ? (5150 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR > >> > > + ? ? ? # entries 304002 and 305002 > >> > > + ? ? ? (5250 - 5350 @ 40), (N/A, 100 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > >> > > ? ? ? ?# entries 308002, 309001 and 310003 > >> > > - ? ? ? (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS > >> > > + ? ? ? (5470 - 5725 @ 40), (N/A, 500 mW), DFS > >> > > > >> > > ?country DK: > >> > > ? ? ? ?(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20) > >> > > -- > >> > > 1.7.3.2 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> -- > >> John W. Linville ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Someday the world will need a hero, > >> and you linville at tuxdriver.com ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?might be all we have. ?Be ready. > >> > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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