Hi, Pierre Joye wrote: > Random has no bad or good meaning here. You apply patches that > upstream (php.net) does not apply, for a given branch. Yes, but they are not random... There is a very clear process by which we choose them - and it is not by closing our eyes and pointing a finger ;) > Are the windows sources available somewhere? For the libs and php? Currently, only the Linux sources are available (through the src deb/rpm package). We plan to make the Windows sources available too - I can't put a time frame on it yet but it will happen. >> We have a ticketing system and forums, and we have in house developers >> who can take a bug reported to Zend and work to either fix it or >> properly report it in bugs.php.net. >> >> Do you think an open bug tracker for ZS would make a big difference for >> your work? > > Not really as long as you report issues to us. But I did not see that > happen in the past for windows (one example, the mssql library bug was > updated in ZS but no report in bugs.php.net about the actual issue). Ok, I just want to make it clear that while it's possible we failed to properly report some things (I am honestly not involved in every bug, far from it - so I can't comment about this specific issue) it is not our intention or evil plan to "hide" bugs from php.net. Again, this is not something we'd benefit from. If it happened it was due to a mistake and not because of some policy. > It is also time for a little clarification. I have nothing against ZS > in general. However I do have issues with the marketing behind it as > it creates confusions while not improving php itself. Marketing is > just fine as long as it stays outside php.net, but as this discussion > happens on our lists, I had to reply. Even if we disagree on a couple > of things, I think we made our points and the readers can now make > their choices with all the necessary info. I understand and respect that. I think the original poster of the thread asked an honest question and I felt that I had to give Zend's perspective - I don't think that in my original response there was any "marketing". I tried to be as balanced and as transparent as possible. I agree that I've made my point, so unless specific questions come up I will now shut up :) With best regards, Shahar. -- Shahar Evron <shahar.e@xxxxxxxx> Product Manager Zend Technologies -- PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
