This is run on an XP box with WAMP install: I have a script that downloads a Excel CSV file and then uses fgetscv to retrieve lines, the strange thing is that in Firefox I get symbols (black triangle with question mark in it) and in IE its basically spaces. So if I echo these values (or print_r array result, my text string has spaces), Ive tried opening it in Notepad etc to see what characters or codes these spaces are, but it shows nothing. Ive opened it in PSPad and its shows only as unknown characters (square blocks). Im suspecting it might be tabs ? Is there a way to remove any "unknown" characters from a line retrieved with fgetsv ? the getscv line used: $handle = fopen($local_file, "r"); while(($data = @fgetcsv($handle,1000,",")) !== FALSE) { if I print out (print_r) this $data I get something like : _�2�0�0�8�0�4�0�3� �1�4�2�0�5�1�0�0�Array ( [0] => ÿþE�v�e�n�t�:� �A�B�C�-�0�0�0�1�8� [1] => �2� [2] => �3� There should be no question mark symbols but should rather look like: _20080403 14205100Array ( [0] => ÿþEvent: ACC-10018 [1] => 2 [2] => 3