RE: connection: close header

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Yeah, I understand that bit.  Persistent connections to the web server
make sense to me.  What doesn't make sense is why you'd require a
persisent connection for something to work.   The workstation might be
persistently connected to the web server, but a PHP, ASP or HTML page is
going to send it's data, then stop.  Then you send another request to
the web server and it sends more data to you.  Then you make another
request and it sends more data.  Whether you're persistent or not
shouldn't make something break as far as I know.  It might make things a
little slower because of having to renegotiate the connection, but since
HTTP is connectionless by nature, the data it sends doesn't require
persistent connection.

That's what sessions are for, isn't it?

Not trying to be antagonistic, I just don't understand why a persistent
connection is required for this to work.  Maybe Dave is asking the wrong
question.

Ok, working with Dave's response to this where he says that he doesn't
have the option of changing the client, let's focus on the PHP page that
the application is accessing.

Dave, describe "Not working correctly".  What is the nature of the data
the application sends to the PHP and ASP pages, why does it need a
persistent connection (again, maybe this isn't the right question to
solve this problem) and what's the PHP page doing that the ASP doesn't.
Is it not retrieving all the data or something?

A little more detail might help solve this one.

-TG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Patrin [mailto:papercrane@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:45 PM
> To: Gryffyn, Trevor
> Cc: php-windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; d c
> Subject: Re:  connection: close header
> 
> 
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:38:02 -0400, Gryffyn, Trevor
> <tgryffyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Just tossing out my 2cents..  Maybe there's a way or a 
> reason, but HTTP
> > connections are, by their nature, connectionless.  They 
> send the data
> > and close the connection.  I'm not sure why you'd want to keep a
> > persistant connection to a specific page.
> > 
> > There are "Keep Alive" codes you can send that maintain a 
> connection to
> > the web server so you don't have to go through all the 
> handshaking and
> > stuff again (ok, I'm not using exact terms here, forgive me.. My
> > networking is a bit rusty) but that doesn't keep you connected to a
> > single PHP or HTML or ASP page, just the server.
> > 
> > Sounds like everything's behaving just as it was designed 
> to and you're
> > trying to do something really odd.  But maybe I'm just not 
> getting what
> > you're trying to do or something.
> > 
> 
> Actually, this is something that's supported by the HTTP protocol. You
> use the same TCP connection (stream) for multiple requests to the
> webserver. It is a bit strange, but it's supported.
> 
> Sounds like the OPs webserver isn't allowing the persistent
> connections to go through. Maybe Apache needs to be configured
> differently. Or PHP might be doing it. Or maybe the client application
> should be rewritten to not use persistent HTTP connections. ;-)
> 
> > Just what popped into my head when I read this.
> > 
> > -TG
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: d c [mailto:php9341@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:51 PM
> > > To: php-windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject:  connection: close header
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am using php 4.3.4 on windows 2000 with iis 5 and isapi. We
> > > recently switched from asp to php. There is an application
> > > that we have that hits one of the pages to send some info,
> > > and it uses persistant connections. The php page was not
> > > working correctly, and a trace using ethereal showed that the
> > > difference was the "Connection: close" header being sent with
> > > the php page, while the "Connection" header was not present
> > > in the asp page's response. I tried using the latest version
> > > of php, and the header is still being sent.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to get iis to not close the connection with php?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave
> > >
> 
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