I really appreciate what you are doing for the two of us, but all I can do with code is look at it. I don't know what a "opengl renderer string" is or where to find it. I don't understand what you want me/us to do. No offense, but you are way over my head here. That's my fault, not yours. My card specs are: 9600GT, 1GB of video RAM, Shader 4. Yes, I'm using the Nvidia binary driver, version 280.13. I hope that answers what questions I think you're asking. Now that Wine has reached this point in dealing with graphic cards, all I want to do is have some relatively useful way to tell Wine what my card is so the info can be passed to whatever game or other app I'm using. Useful being: I can not code. Frankly, it sounds like Lauri might tend in that direction also (sorry if I misunderstand).