Here's the other one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/wordsandpictures/cvc/whirl/game.shtml It asks for an additional plugin but then tells me there's none found. Flash is installed and working on this system (Core2, 10.04, Firefox under Linux) I didn't actually see it this time, but I am sure that this site, (excellent free one for kids) is the one that has asked for 'shockwave' several times... Tks T