Ahso, First of all, I'm not a Mac freak, Linux in my main OS. Second, I never said that open source was illegal. I said that JAILBREAKING is NO LONGER illegal, to prevent people from thinking that I was posting about illegal things, especially given that that is against forum rules. Third, whether Darwine is obsolete or not is irrelevant - I was merely referring to it to show that it is possible to run WINE on a processor emulator. Fourth, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Everyone, Anyways, I hope I have shown how it is possible to develop a WINE app for iOS running on the A4 without the AppStore, and without having to get a signature from Apple, bypassing any of Apple's restrictions, which, to remind again, isn't illegal anymore - details in my previous post and the links therein. Cheers, Jake