@james I have not tested the NWN installer since updating WINE. So I don't know if it works or not. Thanks for the XQuartz hint. (So much for a desk top appliance). Yes, I'll update the appsdb pages but I need to register, thought I'd do it tonight rather than while at work. @doh123 I admire your persistance and work on enabling us NWN fans to play the game on our Macs. I have not found a simple enough "How To" use your wineskin. I did download it but am now where I am.