The blasted things always grab full screen, and keep me from getting anything else done while they do whatever they call work. (I never do anything full-screen.) Can Wine a/o Fedora override that, so as to let the M$ installer have one Gnome workspace, while I keep my access to the rest? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.