Hi Santefe, > Oh well, thanks anyway, don't know why I even got bothered about them anyway, I hardly ever open the command window that often anyway. 8) I don't usually use the command line to start my apps either. I change the properties of the menu item to execute my wine applications with the debugging off. This way it is "one click" to execute whatever commands i like, on startup, in conjunction with a application. For example, i have "one click" CPU fan control. I have green/yellow/orange buttons on my desktop that each can affect how cool my cpu will run. I also can execute apps with things like "schedtools" to shange scheduling policy/and priority or i can change "nice" values. But the list goes on, it applies to anything. I think any desktop(gnome/kde/xfce/etc) can do this. But i use gnome. and i do find it quite handy for wine applications, as different apps may require different settings to work the best. just some food for thought. jordan