hey, > Yecch. Sounds as if one thing they are emulating is the >> DOS/Win9x security" model :( Yes, there are certain things they are trying to accomplish, that require root at this point. They have no workarounds, apparently. > I suppose it's tolerable if it is a temporary expedient, > to allow them to focus on the substance first and fix the > permissions/identities problem later. For me it's not tolerable. I need SMP enabled in the kernel, and also software i am using requires that you DO NOT use it as root. some of this software(linux apps), i am using directly in conjunction with wine. So LUK is a complete waste of time, for me. jordan