yeah thats cool, I dont mind bricking it, they will fix it if I send it in. Basically I could just send it in to be flashed, but I was curious if I could get wine to do it tho. Sandforce said they are working on a linux native flasher but its not out yet. Its not a commandline flasher so freedos is out. They are upgrading these firmwares pretty fast. guess Ill just be left behind on a few till I either break down and do a temp install of winders or send it in. cheers all