That wasn't irony if it sounded like it, I should mention. As to audio, I'm not sure what sound cards they ran in, but I can assure you that it worked on various onboard cards, in at least two Nvidia-HDA cards. Basically, I'd say they are all similar or equal to Nvidia-HDA cards. For instance, this PC reports: > Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1) Unfortunately, most of the other computers are not in my possession anymore, or have been so badly torn apart that I can't get that info. Cheers, Jorl17