tj wrote: > to keep x running then i have to leave the vnc server running just the same. or can i keep x running alone? > right now as soon as i terminate the vnc server WINE stops running the program. You need a constantly running virtual X server on your server. Then you can use either VNC or ssh connection to start programs in that X server. In case you completely lost - X server is the part that displays things. The X client is the part that runs programs. If you just 'ssh -X' to your server and start program on it, your desktop is the X server and your server is X client. Obviously when you disconnect X client looses connection to X server and kills all programs. VNC just let you see the real X server or creates temporary X server for the vnc session (depends what you connecting to). In latter case that server terminates as soon as you disconnect.