oiaohm wrote: > Besides your idea is really poor compared to the likes of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Kernel > > Actually, I like the alternate idea. Integrating Windows code at that kernel level leads to bloat. Bloat leads to serious problems.... > Since you also state not newbie friendly you might as well forget getting windows users. If its not newbie friendly they will not put up with it. > > Now if you want Linux users they will want native applications as well. So you idea is screwed. > > Great. Now make it worthwhile to get the MS folks to build for Linux. Good luck. I used to run an Operating System called OS/2. You would find and probably will still find it in most banks and other financial institutions. Have you seen a release for it in a long, long time (BTW, WordPerfect 5.2 was released for it and WordPerfect for Windoww 6.0 would run on it). I don't expect, anytime soon, to see MS Office for Linux. > I am sorry to say Gullible from a secuirty point of view lots of windows applications are junk. > > I agree. However, when you program on a junk OS, you get junk software. However, it IS software for the masses. > Also bad of bad windows malware does infect wine. So keeping windows applications around and using wine really does weaken your secuirty. > > Yes, and if you go to any major corporation and state that they should get rid of Windows and you will be immediately shown the door. Companies have a major investment in their Windows software, not so the OS. That is why projects like Wine exist. This allows the company to move to a more secure OS (all OSs have security problems, Linux, MacOSX, Solaris, Free/OpenBSD, all of them). > Goal should be to provide feed up to applications that could possiable make the application you want native so getting you away from the windows problem. Ie wine should be nothing more than a way to escape windows in my eyes. > > Good goal. However, this will NEVER happen until and when Microsoft is found in anti-trust violation like IBM was in 1972. Yes, IBM beat the government, but Hitachi beat the crap out of IBM. They have never recovered from this (The US case ended in 1981 when the US government quit the case.) Microsoft is now adopting very restrictive EULAs and getting more governments to sign on with them. This means that areas that were 'free' are becoming restricted. And try to duplicate the 'look and feel' of something like Outlook and you will be quickly slapped with a series of lawsuits. The folks at Mozilla.org and OpenOffice.org are treading a very fine line. Microsoft sued Sun and the suit was immediately dismissed by the 9th Circuit Court (US) because Microsoft could not prove code duplication nor violation of patent. This will become harder and harder as more patents are applied for and approved. > If the system is going to run pure windows apps in linux to save ass you will need fanotify to add real-time anti-virus scanning all the time and take the speed hit. > > Like this is not happening in the Windows world and has for years? The problem is that Windows is very popular and has an inheritly unsecure system. It was built in the period of 'trust'. Linux was not built in the period of trust and has all of the security features from the current period. > How most viruses get into windows is windows users get use to installing from everywhere. Secuirty systems cannot protect you from dumb users. On the other hand Linux's work by the repository model were all applications there are audited. This is one of the major difference in virus spreed between the two OS's. Your idea will remove the difference. > > No it will not. The problem is with user education. However, there are more and more users joining daily. It is only a matter of time until a Linux worm is introduced that will replicate what has infected Windows for years. Then the 'security' of Linux will become moot. Remember, UNIX systems were infected in a major way just because a test worm got out of its controlled environment. This can still happen today. Just take a look at the CVE listings for the BIND program and that will give you the creeps. DNS, something that the Internet relies on, is still infectable and still can be 'persuaded' to accept false inputs. As the folks at Facebook what happened a few weeks ago. They will not discuss it, but the story on black-hats is that the DNS entries were changed, world-wide, and a phishing site was installed at the wrong address and the pharming was very productive. So, see, I appreciate Wine for what it is. A layer on top of UNIX that interfaces Windows API calls to the Linux/UNIX system. Much better, but not the ideal solution. As to what the OP is doing, keep on going. I would like to see Wine integrated more with the Linux desktop, possibly eliminating the need to use the X processes altogether. James McKenzie > > > > >
