>some platinum games aren't quite as platinum on Macs because X11 sucks so bad on Macs. Try the same >installer in a virtual desktop. Or you can try installing version 2.4.0 of XQuartz or you can try using the MacPorts version of X11. Apple IS trying to make X11 better and maybe we should help them by testing/reporting problems to the XQuartz and MacPorts teams. One thing I will mention is that Leopard must be at version 10.5.8 in order to use the latest version of X11 from either of these fine organizations. James McKenzie