Thufir wrote: > thufir@ARRAKIS:~$ wine --version > wine-1.0.1 Try again, and this time use wine-1.1.39. A one-and-a-half-year-old version of Wine isn't likely to work very well if the app got a "Garbage" rating. > incidentally, what's the difference between this list and > wineforum-user@xxxxxxxxxx ? None, really. They're linked. Actually, wineforum-user@xxxxxxxxxx isn't a list at all. It's the email address that the forum uses when somebody posts to the forum. So, if you post to the forum, people who are subscribed to the mailing list get an email from "wineforum-user@xxxxxxxxxx". Conversely, if you post to the mailing list, a corresponding post is produced on the forum. Chip