Oli Warner wrote: > If you're saying "get rid of PA", you might as well say "boot into Windows" for every Wine bug! No no, I didn't said the last part came from you. Read again what I said - all programs that use pulseaudio still fully functional _without_ pulseaudio talking to ALSA/OSS. Anyone else sees something up here? Wine is being pushed to support yet another sound server because it's authors didn't bother to create properly functioning emulation layers. Probably because it is hard to emulate low level functionality. Worse, this very sound server (being a real sound server nothing more) still talks to the same sound drivers that all programs, including Wine, can still work with. No, get rid of extra bloat. It does no one any good. Keep things simple then they have better chances of working. And don't replace one POS with yet another POS - results will be the same, and you'll be searching for yet another POS in the end, unless you just stop and say no more of this, it used to work fine, where all _this_ came from.