thanks for the help... bummer it won't work. i tried WoW too and there was some sort of severe crash a fatal memory error: ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception Program: Z:\home\name\Documents\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe Exception: 0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0073:00604EA7 The instruction at " 0x06004EA7" reference memory at "0xFFE12B2c". The memory could not be "written". Press OK to terminate application. I was never good with memory errors,even in windows and this looks like a windows memory error. i'll google the error to see what it may be. Thanks with the help on champions though.