perryh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on Sept. 10th: >"caveman" <wineforum-user@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Thunderbird wrote: >> > Most Windows console programs still make gdi32/user32 calls >> > which require an Xserver. >> The program has finished way before X11 is started. > >Has there been any thought given to delaying wine's initialization >of its X connection, fonts, etc. until the Windows program actually >executes a call that requires an X server? > This will cause Wine to crash with an X server not found error. This was a major cause of problems between MacOSX 10.4 and MacOSX 10.5. In other words, there has to be a running X server in order for Wine to run. This is a requirement even for windowless operations. James McKenzie