On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:14:19 -0400, John Drescher wrote: [....] > Can you collect this terminal output (fixme err ...) in a file and post > this file on a website or pastebin and link here. With this file someone > can possibly help. Hmmm .... I can probably find or figure out a way to collect it -- but I don't have a web site. Is there one available for such purposes? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.