Snake, I have similar issues with Half-Life2 through Steam. All other 3d games, including GoldenSource engine games (HL1, etc) work fine. I don't play it enough to upgrade my driver to beta, but that seems to be the first thing that was suggested to you. > You can try with the latest beta 190.* drivers > That crash is in your video drivers. Also note that those error messages you get during with the precompiles stuff.... that's ok. We all get them EVERY time. Just make sure to follow the driver installation guides by getting your kernel sources installed. It's a bit cumbersome, but if it gets you playing your game, you'll be happy you did. When that message shows up, it just means it has to build your driver from scratch. The pre-built ones aren't up on FTP for Ubuntu users, so just ignore that message. NVIDIA drivers have been problematic for me with wine games for a while, sometimes breaking things that worked for years... and usually they work perfect in Linux so its hard to tell why the crash occurs. I've asked the Wine forums/mailing list in the past too. If it makes you feel any better, when I run any games running Steam's Source engine, like HL2, I get both of your symptoms (crashes about 10 minutes after running, crashes when I exit). I have to kill the X server or pkill -9 wineserver to get my desktop back. I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit with KDE and desktop effects enabled. I've forced different DX levels as well and it doesn't make things better. So, search around a little more about your problem, and even ask on the nvidia boards. http://forums.nvidia.com/. In the end, that's what fixed my HL1 issue. Re-installing the driver from the beta in the past has usually caused more grief than good, but if it fixed your problem, run with it. Also make sure to revert all of your changes, because you want to be as "vanilla" as possible when you ask on the nvidia boards. Good luck Snake. -Tres On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Snake450<wineforum-user@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks for the reply guys I'll try somewhere else to fix this problem. > > > > > > -- - Tres.Finocchiaro@xxxxxxxxx