Thunderbird wrote: > It looks like you are running X in 16-bit? Most likely your game wants to use 24 and that causes our ChoosePixelFormat in wined3d to fail. > > Roderick Thanks for reply but seems it is not that?.Changed xorg.conf to 24 bit and starting game = same error 'no 3D' .But going to work on xorg.conf for see if tweaking that system helps. Meantime thanks again and any other idea's?. Chris.