I tried doing scp between two machines on my LAN. It whizzed along at great speed for a long time, mostly displaying messages over and over saying either something about permission (denied, I presume), or else about too many levels of symlinks. What I use it for is GPS/map software -- legacy proprietary stuff from Garmin and Maptech, to which I have added a lot of personal data collected over the last dozen years with my GPSs. I'm running Fedora 11 Preview on the target machine at the moment, and have failed even to install the legacy programs; there seem to be parts of Wine that I don't have yet; but the full release is due out in a week, and I'll try again after that. What I want most, of course, is all that personal GPS data; transferring from one GPS after another is tedious. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.