Skimming through Fedora's routine updates, one day not long ago, I noticed the string "garmin" -- and just now thought to try one more time to make one of my GPSs (all of which are Garmins) talk to my legacy proprietary map software. IT DID IT! This is the best computer news I've had since I began running Linux, back in '98 or '99. It means I don't need Windows, ever any more. Blessed be the developers! Praise them with great praise! -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.