I notice that spam is starting to appear from the wine-forum. If its not stopped word will spread and the user list will become unusable. Does the wine-users list use Spamassassin or equivalent? - if not, why not? - if so, I've just written and tested a Spamassassin rule for my mail system. I'm happy to contribute it to the list. If the mail list owner would like a copy, please contact me off-list. Martin