Got it working using the versions you had used. Seems to work just like I need it to now I just have to modify the reports to grab the current date when they run. I haven't tried to do anythen else yet other than modify some of the vba code in the reports so I'm not sure about the forms/control issue. I do have one really weird issue which i can get around by editing the Access program on an emulated version of windows, when I'm in the vba screen and press the comma key I get kicked out of wine right back to the command prompt. Was driving me crazy as I needed to add some code that had a few commas, weird! ........ Just went and tried to make a form and add controls and it seems to be working, what kind of controls are you trying to use that are failing? Bill
