NVidia GeForce 8500 GT running driver 180.29 Terminal????.... ummm hmmmm Wow, guess I better try running it from terminal. Sorry to say I am mainly running my Linux boxes from the GUI (KDE).... And I am a computer guy with customers. I will go run it now from Term and see if I can pull some logs, just thought this would be quick answer as Linux, Desktop, Game is all the same only change was version of WINE from 1.0.1-1 to 1.1.17