i have been looking at the test data and found that many people are having the same problems as me. One person said.... Installation works all the way. Visio.exe works fine, after setting gdiplus.dll library to 'native'. So i opened Winecfg and changed gdiplus.dll to windows native, and then tried to start Visio.... ITS WORKING.... well its started and i was able to start a floor plan. i will just have to see if this still works or if it becomes unusable. Any thanks for your help [Laughing]