Thanks I think my company has the 6.0 client (not sure) what they offered me was 6.0 or what the helpdesk uses and I chose what the helpdesk uses. Don't know remedy that well just had to use the heldpesk portion for 3 years now I use other forms but not very many. As for wine 1.0 I have tried to upgrade but for some reason I upgrade the repositories and it does not offere me winedoors or anything newer than 0.944. I am using the 64 bit version of openSUSE 10.3. Was working fine I think a blamed openSUSE update blew it up. How can I upgrade wine at least and then try that first.