Heres the output: Code: (gdb) core core.26172 warning: core file may not match specified executable file. (no debugging symbols found) Core was generated by `nibiru.exe '. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. [New process 26172] [New process 26189] [New process 26188] #0 0x7bc655e8 in ?? () thanks again for the help. hopefully we can figure this out