According to the AppDB, AnyDVD doesn't work: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=6361 There's no entry for CloneDVD, but it sounds like it, too, won't work for the same reason. > i can see in several places online that ConvertXtoDVD works with wine, but it will not start for me, i get a message on the taskbar that it is starting, but it disappears and then nothing?? The AppDB says it does work. Open a terminal, cd to the directory where the executable is located, and run it from there. Post any messages that appear in the terminal. > any suggested alternative programs to these would be also appreciated. DVD Shrink and DVD Fab HD Decrypter are both rated platinum.