ok, i'm NO expert but I can learn a LOT of things. I have used wine very sparingly in the past, enough to know that IE, outlook and a few other "Win Only" apps will run. So when wine 1.9 was released i figure i HAD to have it. but BOY its a lot different. Installation was smooth, MDV rpms work as expected, but thats where it ends. I use the same IE5.5 install source I have used in the past, and it SEEMS to work. however when WINE IEXPLORE.EXE is run from the cli I get a 1/4 screen WHITE out and nothng more! nothing that says its crashed, just NOTHING. now I have a VM of winxp that I could use, but I think thats over kill for my ifes pc, she just needs IE to access her citrix client. I checked the docs here and they dont sem to have updated with the wine1.0 release. if anyone has successfully done this, i would SURELY appreciate it. Thanks j