Re: Alexandre says "let the newbies run as root"

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On Friday 21 March 2008 07:52:27 am Dan Kegel wrote:
> I don't agree with him, but there you have it.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alexandre Julliard <julliard@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:32 AM
> Subject: Re: loader: more stringent sanity check
> To: Dan Kegel <dank@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: wine-devel@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> "Dan Kegel" <dank@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > Many, many newbies are running wine as root without
> >
>  > really needing to.  They are much more likely to screw
>  > up their systems this way.  Are you saying we should stop
>  > advising against this?
>
>  I have seen very little evidence that anybody screwed up their system by
>  running Wine as root, I think that's just paranoia. Of course it's
>  possible in theory, but you can screw up your system by running 'cat' as
>  root too, that doesn't mean it needs a warning.

I would still recommend at least a warning, if not absolutley refusing to run 
as root, if only to enforce best practices.  Wine is apparently newbie fodder 
these days:  They probably don't know better regarding root permissions in 
general.  Remember, ubiquitous root-equivalent privleges by default is one of 
the the things that has helped fuel the security cesspool in the Windows 
world; this security model is probably one wine should be deliberately 
incompatable with outside it's own emulated environment.

>  So yes, I'd say stop the "don't run as root" crusade, and fix the actual
>  problems that running as root causes, if there are any.

What's wrong with enforcing common sense and using the OS's security model, 
exactly?

- -- 
Paul Johnson
baloo@xxxxxxxxx
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