I use aurora. I could have mentioned it requires .net i suppose. on the server side it uses sql services also, though I havent figure what for, it works without them. the software can be installed 2 ways, server side or local. I use the server install method, so I can have more 1 person use it. Il try and follow the method in that link some time this week to make .net work. Im doing this on a test machine so its ok if i break it.