Re: Web Forums

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On Saturday February 23 2008 17:57:17 Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
> Kind regards,
> Sylvain Petreolle (aka Usurp)
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> ----- Message d'origine ----
>
> > De : L. Rahyen <research@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > À : wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc : Jeremy Newman <jnewman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Envoyé le : Samedi, 23 Février 2008, 9h59mn 49s
> > Objet : Re:  Web Forums
> >
> > On Saturday February 23 2008 00:20:57 Jeremy Newman wrote:
> > > There still seems to be an issue with it putting  in the subject
> > > line. I think this is because it expects the prefix to really be
> > > [wine-users]. Maybe we should change the prefix.
> > >
> > > If I had my way I'd drop the prefix entirely. I filter off of the
> > > message headers, but I'm sure that would upset some mailing list
> > > subscribers.
> >
> >     Personally I don't see good technical reasons for such prefixes. As
> > far as I
> >
> > know all popular e-mail clients have filters that are capable of sorting
> > incoming mail without need of prefixes in the subject. And many mailing
> > lists don't have any kind of prefix in the subject anyway. IMHO, prefix
> > can be safely removed. If someone use prefix in the subject field they
> > should fix their configuration. BTW, wine-devel and wine-patches don't
> > use prefix so I'm wonder why wine-users use it...
>
> please dont.
> many web mail clients dont offer the ability to use List-ID as a filter
> criteria.

	This isn't a problem actually. For example, personally I don't use List-ID. I 
filter messages using To, From, CC fields. Why? Because this is most 
universal approach that can be used not only with
mailing lists that correctly set List-ID but with e-mail messages of any kind. 
So I can sort mailing lists, some news messages, messages from other
people who very often send me e-mails, and so on... So what I said is true - 
there is no technical reasons to have prefix in subject; but this doesn't 
mean there is no social or other reasons to have it! Of course they do exist. 
Therefore if there is some people who like this - fine, let's keep it "as 
is".
	Personally I don't care about this issue. Just because I can remove  
prefix by piping them through sed 's/\[Wine\] //' if I wish. This is standard 
function of my e-mail client. And in fact I use sed in my filters a lot. 
However I do not remove  prefix because I don't care enough...

	In short, my opinion is simple: even if there is no good technical reason for 
 prefix let's keep it if there is some users who likes it - and as it 
clear from this discussion there are a lot of such users. Therefore  
prefix shouldn't be removed.



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