On Saturday February 23 2008 17:57:17 Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > Kind regards, > Sylvain Petreolle (aka Usurp) > > Support artists, not multinationals - http://Iwouldntsteal.net > Supportez les artistes, pas les multinationales - http://Iwouldntsteal.net > > > Free music you can listen to everywhere : http://www.jamendo.com > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > > De : L. Rahyen <research@xxxxxxxxxx> > > À : wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx > > Cc : Jeremy Newman <jnewman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Envoyé le : Samedi, 23 Février 2008, 9h59mn 49s > > Objet : Re: Web Forums > > > > On Saturday February 23 2008 00:20:57 Jeremy Newman wrote: > > > There still seems to be an issue with it putting in the subject > > > line. I think this is because it expects the prefix to really be > > > [wine-users]. Maybe we should change the prefix. > > > > > > If I had my way I'd drop the prefix entirely. I filter off of the > > > message headers, but I'm sure that would upset some mailing list > > > subscribers. > > > > Personally I don't see good technical reasons for such prefixes. As > > far as I > > > > know all popular e-mail clients have filters that are capable of sorting > > incoming mail without need of prefixes in the subject. And many mailing > > lists don't have any kind of prefix in the subject anyway. IMHO, prefix > > can be safely removed. If someone use prefix in the subject field they > > should fix their configuration. BTW, wine-devel and wine-patches don't > > use prefix so I'm wonder why wine-users use it... > > please dont. > many web mail clients dont offer the ability to use List-ID as a filter > criteria. This isn't a problem actually. For example, personally I don't use List-ID. I filter messages using To, From, CC fields. Why? Because this is most universal approach that can be used not only with mailing lists that correctly set List-ID but with e-mail messages of any kind. So I can sort mailing lists, some news messages, messages from other people who very often send me e-mails, and so on... So what I said is true - there is no technical reasons to have prefix in subject; but this doesn't mean there is no social or other reasons to have it! Of course they do exist. Therefore if there is some people who like this - fine, let's keep it "as is". Personally I don't care about this issue. Just because I can remove prefix by piping them through sed 's/\[Wine\] //' if I wish. This is standard function of my e-mail client. And in fact I use sed in my filters a lot. However I do not remove prefix because I don't care enough... In short, my opinion is simple: even if there is no good technical reason for prefix let's keep it if there is some users who likes it - and as it clear from this discussion there are a lot of such users. Therefore prefix shouldn't be removed.