Dan Kegel wrote: > Well, I wanted to add city governments, but none of the > apps they need are on the market; they're all homegrown VB apps. > Church is the closest I could come to city governments; > the church management app I'm testing is a VB app, > and is at least a straw man standin for those unobtainable government apps. Thanks for the explanation. > > Do you want them anyway? > > Sure. What market segment? Hmm. I have to name it? Well, "People that perform their work using computers", then. The software is Check Point SecuRemote and SecureClient. The win32 version runs as a service. When enabled, it captures all network traffic and matches it against a corporate security policy. If outgoing packets match whatever rules defined, they can be encrypted and sent to the corporate network by VPN. So, it's a VPN client and a personal firewall in one, with policies defined by your {government,organization,company,whatever}. If I had to guess, I'd say that 50% of mid-size+ corporations and most governments use the Check Point firewall. They'll be using SecuRemote or SecureClient for all their home workplaces, which means that every single one of their users' workplace-provided PCs won't be able to use Linux before this stuff works. Alternatives - Linux native version? I think there was a Linux SecuRemote once, but AFAIR development falled behind and it stopped working at some point. Or something. It was probably fixed to a specific Linux kernel, too. Check Point does not seem to have any kind of commitment to Linux as a desktop OS, so I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. Alternatives - IPSEC? The Check Point firewall can be set up to accept IPSEC connections as well as the SecuRemote/SecureClient stuff, but it's much more nightmarish to configure. I can't imagine any FW admin doing that unless (s)he was absolutely forced to, so most installations probably won't have that option. Free? The client tools are free (as in beer) to use. If anyone could ever get it to run, connectivity could be tested against any random corporate firewall (of course, logging in and establishing VPN wouldn't be allowed). Current version datasheet: http://www.checkpoint.com/products/downloads/vpn-1_clients_datasheet.pdf Version-to-be datasheet: http://www.checkpoint.com/products/downloads/Integrity_SecureClient_datasheet.pdf Where to get it? You can have the software sent to you by Check Point, but you will have to pay shipping costs for the CD. On the plus side, the CD also contains an evaluation version of Check Point's firewall and other stuff. Otherwise you can Google for a version. At the time of this writing that fx. gave me these download locations: http://scripts.uni2.dk/safeoffice/SecuRemote_Client.exe http://www.tks.buffalo.edu/dir_office/mainop/secuRemote/ (select Windows version) http://www.checkpoint.com/techsupport/downloads/bin/securemote/5_0/53328/srsc_53328_w2k.exe What's missing from Wine? I'm guessing win32 services and ndiswrapper-like stuff? Other products in the same market segment? I'm guessing that Cisco at least has a similar product. Phew. Sorry for the lengthy e-mail! _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users